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Too much power? How can I get better traction?

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by Richy G, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. Jan 2, 2024 at 7:20 PM
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    Richy G

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    Brand new stock 2024 tundra limited trd. Love the power but it seems so easy to spin the tires out. Even with my new winter tires. Would a suspension mod help get some traction? Or should I go to a larger tire? Or anything else?
     
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    Eco mode?
     
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    I had the same thing when we had a bit of slush. Truck just seemed to break loose all the time. I have heavy treaded tires and that didn’t seem to help. Also have an extra 300 lbs in the bed.

    Maybe trying a different mode like Eco or tow mode might change the spinning behavour.
     
  4. Jan 2, 2024 at 7:35 PM
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    More weight in the bed would help. But doesn’t the truck have traction control?
     
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    Air down? Add more weight?
     
  6. Jan 2, 2024 at 7:50 PM
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    4Auto. Oh wait. . .
     
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  9. Jan 2, 2024 at 8:15 PM
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    You would think that it would kick in and stop the spin! Sort of reminded me of my 89 lifted and locked Samurai! Lots of fun!
     
  10. Jan 2, 2024 at 8:15 PM
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    Just gotta relearn. I,have the same issue (or my winter,tires are really bad. )

    300lbs of,sand in the back, plus 125lb of,diamondback tonneau. Very,easy to spin the tires, but it’s also been very mild here,so,far (ice,is slippery close,to,zero)
     
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    That's work for a supercharged V8.
     
  12. Jan 2, 2024 at 9:28 PM
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    One of my favorite topics. This is exactly why our trucks need a limited slip rear dif. All trucks have a heavy weight bias toward the front and lots of torque. I have had two trucks with LSD and it makes a HUGE difference on slick surfaces during everyday driving. Toyota please hear this.
     
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    Ummm, I think you're over payload.
     
  14. Jan 2, 2024 at 11:12 PM
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    Probably just need to give yourself a bit of time to learn the ins/outs of your new bi-turbo truck. Get into the multi terrain select feature and use snow mode. :thumbsup: Also, if weather conditions are causing you to have traction issues, place in 4H.

    I drive a RWD Lexus IS350 with snow tires in the snow just fine up to 6" of snow.
    My next vehicle has no torque management (GM diesel) and double the torque than the Tundra and comes on hard at low RPM. Some BFG KO2's are just fine in those conditions.

    Something tells me this jokester Canadian is just having fun with us. :thumbsup:
     
  15. Jan 2, 2024 at 11:20 PM
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    I don't know what to say, OP. Even when I have a tire break loose, the back end doesn't slide around at all because traction control kicks in and gets power to my planted tire. I'm inclined to say it's partially throttle/peddle control, and partly tires. I have blizzak DMV2s on the Tundra. I tried the OEM duellers for a month last winter, and they were comically bad. I have x-ices on my Subaru and had hakkapellittas on my 4Runner. The x-ices are actually pretty good. I never had to engage 4wd if I didn't want to with the 4Runner - the hakkas are really nice tires. I've driven a lot on snowy/icy highways with the blizzaks on the tundra, and they are confidence-inspiring. What winter tires do you have, OP?

    The type of roads you drive in the winter are important. Skinnier winter tires may offer greater benefit than larger tires, depending on the roads and conditions. I think the consensus is that skinnier tires are better if your driving is mostly in town with slush and crud, or a few inches of snow over pavement. Larger, wider tires become helpful if you're in deep, unbroken snow.. which most people don't encounter.

    My winter tires are 275/60/20s. 33" in diameter, just a hair under 11" in width. My best advice would be to go easier on the throttle and ease into acceleration, especially around turns, and especially from a stop. If this is your first pickup, the lack of weight over the rear tires takes a little getting used to in winter. Let us know how it goes!
     
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    For most people that are not rock crawling, appropriate tires for conditions, 4WD, and LSD would be optimal. I really don't need a locker.
     
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    Use that throttle control with you right foot.
     
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    4auto is terrible for the life span of your vehicle. And it’s not great as there is a delay. My work rigs have 4auto and it’s not great. I have a few mechanic buddies who said gm vehicles that had auto were in the shop significantly more.

    I live in basically the arctic and have almost no issues with slipping and sliding. Have the engine in eco mode (I actually drive in custom setting) and good Nokian winter tires. The only issue I’ve had so far is going up my icy slopped driveway in reverse slowly. And I generally have nothing in the bed.
    Obviously an AWD system is better for snow though. My Acura destroys the truck in snow/ice.
     
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    Because it is not Torsen. Sequoia and Lexuses have 4auto w/ Torsen, and it lasts forever.
     
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    Could just slam some 35” tires on it and that should prevent that from happening
     
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    No no, 2nd gen Sequoia and Lexus SUVs have AWD with a center diff. There’s no 2WD mode like on 4Auto transfer cases. That’s why the Sequoia transfer case is more durable. Completely different from 4Auto that Ford and Gam trucks have.
     
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    Too many, but not enough....
    Throw a couple sandbags in the bed and your good
     
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    The secret to traction is........................ right foot.
     
  25. Jan 3, 2024 at 7:32 AM
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    In my case, I might be seeing some of that weird startup/take-off behaviour. Not a smooth throttle response I think, I get nothing followed by a rocket launch! That is using Normal mode, I will try ECO next time we get some snow.
     
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    Torsen is a classic differential (with hints), not a slipping clutch system, like most AWD systems are.

    Also Sequoia does have 2WD. It is basically the same puck like Tundra has, plus a center diff lock button on the dash.
     
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    As many have stated - try ECO mode and baby the throttle a bit more. However, I do agree with you, as I can easily spin my tires on even a damp surface. This thing has power!
     
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    Maybe trying a different mode or add more weight?
     
  29. Jan 4, 2024 at 3:06 AM
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    It's not really fact of two much power. It is 2 tires trying to move something that weighs 6000 pounds or more. You got to be lighter on throttle or put little more tire on it.
     
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    Is there really such a thing as too much power?? ;-)
     
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