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Steering rack leaking into bellow

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by Weagle, Apr 2, 2024.

  1. Apr 2, 2024 at 1:29 PM
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    Weagle

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    Replacing my bellows this afternoon and power steering fluid came out of the bellow. More than a drop or two - maybe an ounce or so. I had already noticed there seem to be some issues with the steering box / rack

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    is this something that should be Toyota OEM or are there other good brand replacements?
     
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  2. Apr 2, 2024 at 1:33 PM
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    Unless you want to do it again, I would go OEM. I think you can buy reman Toyota racks. I found one for my 5th Gen 4Runner anyway. Might be able to save a few bucks that way.
     
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  3. Apr 2, 2024 at 1:35 PM
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    Good question. I just drain mine, clean it out and zip tie it back. At some point it'll be too much of a nuisance and a new rack will be necessary.
     
  4. Apr 2, 2024 at 1:47 PM
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    Yeah, I think I can get by for right now but that'll be a project for the next month or two. Several of the seals seem to be getting weepy
     
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  5. Apr 2, 2024 at 1:58 PM
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    I went ahead and ordered mine for the 4R, because the remans go out of stock quickly. If you find one, I would suggest ordering it. It's also here for when the rack totally shits the bed. But, I'm definitely not in any hurry. It's a real PITA to change on the 4R. Not so bad on the Tundra.
     
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  6. Apr 2, 2024 at 2:39 PM
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    There’s an episode of All Girls Garage where they rebuild a tundra rack using only routine mechanics tools. Might want to try that.
     
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  7. Apr 2, 2024 at 3:11 PM
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    yeah, this is the best price I've seen from a Toyota dealership for OEM. I'm still looking for remanufactured. But this price will certainly make you think about it.


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  8. Apr 2, 2024 at 3:13 PM
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    I’d be interested in that. First time I looked into it years back, Toyota only made a passenger side seal for the rack to replace and not the driver’s side.
     
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  9. Apr 4, 2024 at 6:17 AM
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    Before replacing the rack try flushing the fluid replacing some of the power steering fluid with a product called AT 205 which is a liquid polymer that rejuvenates seals. Approximately 1.5oz per quart
     
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  10. Apr 8, 2024 at 8:10 AM
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    Thanks. I just decided to get a remanufactured rack. At 18 years of age and 308,000 miles the bushings were looking suspect too. since I am restoring the truck I just thought I would get it back in tiptop shape. New inner tie rod ends, etc.

    I'm on a journey to replace all seals and bushings anyway. Just recently replaced outer TRE's and LBJ's, sway bar links etc

    thanks for the info on that product. That might come in handy in the future
     
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  11. Apr 8, 2024 at 11:56 AM
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    The bushings that come included with the aftermarket racks can be a bit dubious. I’d swap in an Energy Suspension poly bushing kit. They aren’t very expensive whatsoever.
     
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  12. Apr 8, 2024 at 12:18 PM
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    Wish I would've read this earlier. I just ordered ones from total chaos. They are also poly but about $10 more than the energy suspension ones
     
  13. Apr 8, 2024 at 3:32 PM
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    The only thing AT 205 can’t be used for is brakes and you can use a spray bottle and apply to the outside
     
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  14. Apr 23, 2024 at 7:17 AM
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    After receiving my"remanufactured toyota" steering rack with a China sticker on it, i've about decided to order the brand new OEM complete rack I posted above.

    Am I letting my OCD and perfectionistic tendencies get the best of me?

    I believe you can get the seals and rebuild it. But since the new OEM rack includes the inner TRE's and bellows and the steering gear is brand new I thought it would be worth it.

    my concerns with rebuilding are the tendency for the casing to weaken and rust-out under the bushing due to the air conditioning condensation discharge dripping directly on the steering rack.

    Does the internal gear wear overtime? It's not like it's a wheel bearing in that it doesn't have constant gear on gear movement.

    18 years old 309,000 Miles. I'm trying to do a bumper-to-bumper refresh/rebuild over time and would like for it to be in tiptop shape, proactively refreshing, rebuilding, replacing before a failure

    i've already done the lower ball joints, coils, shocks, outer tre's, sway bar links and power steering pump.

    I believe I've still got to do the control arm bushings, upper ball joints, and swaybar bushings but I am otherwise getting reasonably close on the front steering and suspension
     
  15. Apr 23, 2024 at 7:23 AM
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    Yes, probably.

    Possibly? Someone had one for sale recently in the marketplace here, I strongly considered snatching that one up.

    All gears wear over time ...
     
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  16. Apr 23, 2024 at 7:27 AM
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    OK, that fed the beast. Perfectionistic tendencies are probably going to win
     
  17. Apr 23, 2024 at 1:14 PM
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    I also ordered a steering shaft seal since I will have to take off the steering shaft coupler to replace the steering rack


    Is there anything else while I'm in there related to the steering shaft?
     
  18. Apr 23, 2024 at 1:27 PM
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    I've had this for 2 years now. Works fine and took a lot of abuse in AZ twice.

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  19. Apr 23, 2024 at 1:28 PM
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    Didn't I read somewhere that you had a lot of trouble replacing it? If so, any advice?
     
  20. Apr 23, 2024 at 1:34 PM
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    It's just kind of a pain getting the sway bar off. The top nut in the center of the rack doesn't help. Plus, mine was leaking for years. It was a mess under there. I'd recommend a second set of hands for sure.

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    Oh, plus we were kinda drunk.
     
  21. Apr 23, 2024 at 1:40 PM
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    :cheers:

    I'm wondering if mine is different since yours is an O2 4WD and mine is an 06 2WD because in the video I watched, they did not have to remove the swaybar. If so, I'll count myself very lucky

    I looked at this site before, but didn't know about their reputation

    when I just looked again, they have two options. One appears to be a rebuilt unit because you get a lifetime warranty when you return your core. The other is a brand new unit with a 10 year warranty.

    Did they have those options for you and if so, which one did you pick?

    Did you flush your power steering fluid while you were at it? Seems like that would be pretty easy while replacing the rack




    And I guess I need to search the forum for a way to reroute that AC drain
     
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  22. Apr 23, 2024 at 1:49 PM
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    Could be a bit different for yours for the sway bar. They have 3 options for my year. I believe the top one is reman.

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    I would absolutely, 100% feel confident going with this rack again if I had to.
     
  23. Apr 23, 2024 at 1:51 PM
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    They had that third option for mine as well. Actually, they had a fourth option with wheel Bearings outer TRE's and swaybar links, etc. But I've got Already replaced all of that

    Thanks for the input. I'm leaning very heavily this way now.

    Did you flush your power steering fluid while you were at it? I definitely need to do this.
     
  24. Apr 23, 2024 at 1:55 PM
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    Didn't have too. It had been leaking so long I had to refill the res every few months. It was beautiful red fluid in there still.
     
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